{"id":5212,"date":"2011-08-23T22:46:56","date_gmt":"2011-08-23T18:46:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/?p=2240"},"modified":"2011-08-23T22:46:56","modified_gmt":"2011-08-23T18:46:56","slug":"bachmann-perry-obama-and-christ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/2011\/08\/23\/bachmann-perry-obama-and-christ\/","title":{"rendered":"Bachmann, Perry, Obama, and Christ"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Originally published by <strong><em>Communities @ Washington Times<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>SAN DIEGO, <\/strong>August 23, 2011\u2014In a <em>U.K. Guardian<\/em> editorial (8-31-11) entitled, <em>U.S. Economy: the Tea Party Is a Real Threat to America, <\/em>grave  concern was expressed because \u201cpresidential candidate and  ultra-conservative congresswoman Michele Bachmann prays every day for  guidance.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Since then, Rick Perry\u2019s entry into the GOP primary race has absorbed  some of the spot light from Bachmann. Indeed, prior to throwing his hat  into the ring, Perry made no bones about seeking the will of God as a  candidate:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m getting more and more comfortable every day that this is what I&#8217;ve been called to do&#8221; (<em>Ethics Daily. Com<\/em> 8-5-11).<\/p>\n<p>Perry\u2019s economic success as Governor of Texas and apparent ability to  bridge fiscal and social conservatives is sending bellowing fear down  the corridors of Liberal  Land.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s probably no big surprise that Bill Maher warned our nation about  Perry before he even entered the race, taking issue with a politician  who would dare turn to God for direction: \u201cBut here on planet reality,  may I point out that there is no such thing as spiritual solutions to  national problems. If that&#8217;s where we are as a country, if our official  government policy is &#8220;yee haw&#8230; Jesus take the wheel!&#8221; then we&#8217;re dead  already\u201d (<em>Real Time With Bill Maher<\/em>, 6-17-11).<\/p>\n<p>With all due homage to the wit, wisdom, and historical mastery of  sages like Bill Maher, liberal concerns are not only misplaced but  inconsistently applied. It\u2019s not as if the notion of a U.S. President  turning to God for guidance is some kind of strange new phenomenon.  Abraham Lincoln himself said, \u201cMeanwhile we must work earnestly in the  best light He gives us, trusting that so working still conduces to the  great ends He ordains\u201d ( <em>Letter to <\/em><em>Elizah P. Guerney, <\/em>September 4, 1864<em>).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>And let us not forget that our current president, (a darling of the  liberal media and liberal Hollywood) also claims to be a follower of  Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>True, the term <em>Christian<\/em> is feared less than the term \u201cEvangelical.\u201d <em>Evangelical <\/em>is  simply one of many designations to describe people who take their  Christian faith seriously. Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, and other  Evangelical politicians have nothing to apologize for. It is the  teaching of the Bible that Christians follow Christ through a genuine  experience and relationship with the Spirit of God:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd this is how we know that He lives in us: We know it by the Spirit He gave us\u201d (1 John 3:24).<\/p>\n<p>If such a relationship is intended to guide our every day lives, why  would that suddenly change when a person holds public office? Being  guided by the Spirit of God does not translate into a disregard for our  Constitution or an agenda to force fellow citizens into Christianity  against their will<em>. The very message of the Gospel is that God is offering people a choice. <\/em>His  Spirit is not going to lead governors or presidents contrary to His own  message. In Rick Perry\u2019s words, &#8220;God is wise enough not to be  affiliated with any political party&#8221; (<em>CNN<\/em>,\u00a0 8-12-11).<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, it\u2019s interesting that our main stream media is not  concerned about President Obama\u2019s Christianity, despite the fact that he  was quite vocal about his faith while seeking election in 2008, even  appearing on TV with Pastor Rick Warren. Does Obama get a pass on his  religious beliefs because he\u2019s Obama, or simply because he\u2019s a liberal  Democrat?\u00a0 Probably both reasons are sure bets, but there may also be a  third: <em>Obama has qualified his Christianity. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>When President Obama says he is a Christian, we must carefully ask,  \u201cExactly what does that mean?\u201d After all, Christianity has been around  for over two-thousand years. Many different kinds of denominations,  movements, and cults have taken on the name, <em>Christianity.<\/em> In  some of these organizations, the doctrine does not even remotely  resemble the teachings of the Bible. And so, when Barack Obama ascribes  to Christianity, I humbly ask, \u201cWhat kind of Christianity?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This has been a fair and obvious question for quite some time inasmuch as Obama attended <em>Trinity United Church of Christ<\/em> for 20 years, a congregation whose pastor has made the news often with  his inflammatory sermons. Actually, there is something else about <em>Trinity United<\/em> that is not discussed nearly as often as the rantings of Jeremiah Wright.<\/p>\n<p><em>Trinity<\/em> belongs to <em>The World Council of Churches.<\/em> <em>The World Council of Churches<\/em> is an ecumenical organization which includes (but is not limited to)  the liberal movement within Christianity that has caused  sub-denominations to proliferate in many mainline denominations.  Permission to read the Bible \u201cliberally\u201d means different things for  different pastors. Many<em> <\/em>liberal ministers downplay miracles,  dismiss the need for salvation through Jesus alone, vehemently reject  the notion of eternal punishment, and essentially adapt any current,  left wing, Politically Correct ideology.<\/p>\n<p>Others reject the Bible as being God\u2019s<em> literal<\/em> word. No,  they do not deny the Bible outright. Instead, they insist that the word  of God must be \u201cinterpreted properly\u201d according to human reason.  Unfortunately, where religion is concerned, there is little agreement as  to what is reasonable. Certainly some\u00a0 liberal pastors accept miracles  because in their minds such events actually do make sense. But if  something else seems irrational to them, the doctrine of hell, for  instance, they will assert their \u201creasonable mind\u2019 and reinterpret a  difficult passage until it either no longer says what it actually says,  or until it gets branded an &#8220;added teaching, falsely ascribed to Jesus.&#8221;  In this vein, the famous Jesus Seminar made its name by pointing out  which words &#8220;truly belong to Christ.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Amidst such a variety of opinion, we should allow Obama to speak for  himself about his own beliefs. Unfortunately, when he does this, his  lack of dedication to Scripture becomes painfully apparent. During the  2008 election, while commenting on homosexuality, Obama said he  preferred the<em> Sermon on the Mount<\/em> to \u201csome obscure passage in Romans\u201d (<em>Hocking<\/em><em> College, Speech,<\/em> Nelsonville, Ohio, March, 2, 2008).<\/p>\n<p>Undoubtedly, the Roman passage in mind was Paul\u2019s discussion of homosexuality:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBecause of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their  women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way  the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed  with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men,  and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion\u201d (Rom  1:26-27).<\/p>\n<p>I intend no disrespect for those experiencing same-sex attraction.  Homosexuality is mentioned in this article only because that particular  subject instigated Obama\u2019s statements about Scripture. Any objective  reading of the text must admit that Paul\u2019s words are anything but  obscure. They could not possibly be clearer, neither do they contradict  the words of Jesus, since He confirmed the divine inspiration of the  Jewish Holy Scriptures (referred to in those days as <em>The Law and The Prophets<\/em>)  and insisted that the Israelites continue to honor God\u2019s Law. That  included the law about homosexuality (Lev 18:2). \u00a0In fact, Jesus taught  this devotion to the Law in the very <em>Sermon on the Mount<\/em> which Obama claims to accept (Matt 5:17-20).<\/p>\n<p>Obama was not clear which part of the <em>Sermon on the Mount <\/em>he  was contrasting to Paul, but it is safe to guess that he meant verses  7:1-2 which contain the famous phrase, \u201cJudge not, lest you be judged.\u201d  This is the favorite Bible verse of many because they somehow think it  grants them license to ignore all those other\u00a0Bible verses, most  notably, the ones which condemn sin.<\/p>\n<p>Actually, Jesus was only telling people to refrain from judging  another if they had not first judged themselves and their own sin:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhy do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother\u2019s eye and  pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your  brother, \u2018Let me take the speck out of your eye,\u2019 when all the time  there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank  out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck  from your brother\u2019s eye.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>See? We <em>are allowed t<\/em>o remove the speck from our brother\u2019s eye. It\u2019s just that we have to remove our own log first.<\/p>\n<p>When studied in context\u00a0 there is no disharmony between the <em>Gospel of Matthew<\/em> and the <em>Book of Romans<\/em>,  but Obama\u2019s idea was that Jesus\u2019 words somehow trump Paul\u2019s. This  displays a complete ignorance of the Bible. It also reveals affinity for  the liberal theology so rampant in the <em>World Council of Churches.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Is Obama a real Christian in the Biblical sense of the term? Would  Jesus view Obama as one of His true followers? Only God can see a man\u2019s  heart and only God knows how the man will fare on Judgment Day. \u00a0<em>But if this same man is our president, we are at least entitled to evaluate his consistency.<\/em> Obama\u2019s initiation into Christianity came from a church denomination and affiliation<em> <\/em> which allows many liberal ideas that are impossible to reconcile with  Scripture, although many try. Obama\u2019s stated beliefs about Scripture  seem to follow suit.<\/p>\n<p>Make no mistake: Republican candidates such as Bachmann and Perry are  not the only ones claiming to be followers of Jesus. You may not  believe in the Bible yourself. That is your choice and constitutional  right. (Yes, I said that as an Evangelical Christian). But since we  probably will not have a candidate in 2012 who does not espouse  Christianity, voters will have to decide which politicians concern them  more: those who pay attention to the entire Bible they claim to believe  in, or the one who cherry picks verses, selectively deciding what God  did nor did not say.<\/p>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/ec.tynt.com\/b\/rw?id=bFUy1y59er4B9Macwqm_6l&amp;u=wtcommunities\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Originally published by Communities @ Washington Times SAN DIEGO, August 23, 2011\u2014In a U.K. Guardian editorial (8-31-11) entitled, U.S. Economy: the Tea Party Is a Real Threat to America, grave concern was expressed because \u201cpresidential&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26,30],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5212","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-articles","category-theworld"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5212","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5212"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5212\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5212"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5212"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5212"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}