{"id":11294,"date":"2023-11-19T06:42:00","date_gmt":"2023-11-19T14:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/?p=11294"},"modified":"2026-07-02T12:27:22","modified_gmt":"2026-07-02T20:27:22","slug":"debate-the-israel-hamas-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/2023\/11\/19\/debate-the-israel-hamas-war\/","title":{"rendered":"Debate: The Israel-Hamas War"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_3888\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-11294-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bob-Siegel-Show-Sunday-KCBQ-May-10-1.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bob-Siegel-Show-Sunday-KCBQ-May-10-1.mp3\">https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bob-Siegel-Show-Sunday-KCBQ-May-10-1.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bob-Siegel-Show-Sunday-KCBQ-May-10-1.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/?powerpress_pinw=11294-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bob-Siegel-Show-Sunday-KCBQ-May-10-1.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Bob-Siegel-Show-Sunday-KCBQ-May-10-1.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob debates Muslim apologist Nadir Ahmed who defends Hamas\u2019 October 7, 2023 attack on Israel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Important note from Bob Siegel:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Permission&nbsp;is NOT given for this debate to be posted on any other platforms unless the following two conditions are met:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1) The debate is posted in its entirety with absolutely no cuts or edits. No isolated clips are allowed!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2) There is no visual or audio commentary running concurrently with the debate<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Comments from listeners sent&nbsp;on the day this debate first aired.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From&nbsp;<strong>Tom:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hi Bob,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I heard your debate with the Muslim evangelist on your podcast. After I heard your opening statement, I was wondering how this guy could possibly counter all the facts that you gave? I was flabbergasted when I heard his argument. It seemed like he lived in a totally different world with different \u201cfacts\u201d than you and me!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anyway, keep up the great work!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From&nbsp;<strong>Joyce<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob was great. I heard facts from him &amp; the other guy\u2019s \u201csources\u201d were bogus information. But I see how they use the media for them to be labeled \u201cthe victims \u201c Praise God for his truth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From&nbsp;<strong>Mark and Wife:&nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;Hey Bob, I think it was a great debate! My wife and and I enjoyed it. I wish there was more time. I would have enjoyed a back and forth on who are the indigenous people to the land. Your guest slightly mentioned the topic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From&nbsp;<strong>Roger:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What I thought was interesting about your debate was that Nadir admitted in my hearing that Hamas was a terrorist organization, but being blinded by the father of lies he could not outright condemn their terrorist attack on Israel and danced around the atrocities they committed. Israel is simply going after the murderers and the planners who carried out the murders just like any law enforcement agency in the world would. Thou shall not murder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t recall a bunch of protests in this country when Al Queda was attacked in Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden was killed. People need to realize the terrorists are the ones who start the conflicts. Like you said if a murderer comes into one\u2019s own house. People normally seek justice for the victims. Thank you for debating the Muslim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From&nbsp;<strong>Elaine<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob won!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And not because I am taking sides.<br>His opponent uses Google and the US State Dept as his references?!<br>That is laughable.<br><br>And the bottom line is who attacked who.<br>That makes Hamas the terrorist group.<br>Hamas has received billions of dollars in<br>foreign aid and they have spent it on military weapons.<br><br>Gaza is a cesspool because their leaders made it that way.<br>3 plus Hamas leaders are also billionaires with no obvious job or<br>skills or talents to secure that kind of wealth.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From&nbsp;<strong>Tedde&nbsp;<\/strong>Hi Bob! Just wanted to let you know we listened to your radio show and that guy was hard to listen to. No regard for human life, full of hate.&nbsp;&nbsp;You did a good job, but unfortunately he didn\u2019t like to listen or answer some questions. Praying for the veil to be lifted from his eyes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From&nbsp;<strong>Ross:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fantastic debate, Bob! And in my extremely biased opinion, with the most mutual respect possible. Great moderating, Mike as the spirited debate was super naturally controlled!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To hear audience responses and a debrief of the debate, listen to this show which aired several weeks later:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For more information on the subject matter of this debate:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/2023\/10\/18\/the-holocaust-against-israel\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/thai-1.png\" alt=\"The Holocaust Against Israel\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bobsiegel.net\/wp\/2023\/10\/18\/the-holocaust-against-israel\/\">The Holocaust Against Israel<\/a><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Is it really true that there will be peace in the Middle East if we can just have a two state solution or are some people instead challenging Israel\u2019s right to exist at all? 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